THE EXILED GEORDIE INTERVIEWS……………..
THE TURNBULL’S, STEPHEN AND PHILIP.
24 year old twins, Tyneside born and bred, the Turnbull’s are a product of the Hartlepool United Youth System. Both have had similar yet different paths, from the Dallas Cup with Pools (Stephen as captain in 2003), to both being on loan at Gateshead and then playing for the Tynesiders. But the similarities end there as their careers have diverted elsewhere, but still with the footballing tradition. Philip has been at Blyth Spartans (on loan) and York City , before spending the past three years and near 150 appearances for Gateshead helping them into the Conference National. Stephen meanwhile has had loan spells with Football League sides, Bury and Rochdale, before spending a season at Gateshead and then onto Croft Park where he’d spend the past two seasons.
Here, the twin brothers provide a brief insight into their lives as footballers on the pitch.
THE EXILED GEORDIE - Lets start by having your thoughts on the before, during and after a certain FA Trophy quarter-final match between Gateshead and Blyth Spartans this past season.
PHILIP TURNBULL – I really enjoyed everything about the Blyth game, all the interviews and everything that came with it was fun. In terms of the game we both agreed afterwards that here was a class apart with the two teams. To be honest, we battered them and never really looked in danger. They’re a good team and a good club but the differences in leagues and us being full-time were very evident. Afterwards we spoke and he congratulated me and the lads he knew from Gateshead . Occasionally I’ll bring it up when we argue.
STEPHEN TURNBULL – The quarter-final game against Gateshead was one I was desperate to play in, not just because my twin was playing but because I’d been at Gateshead previously and it hadn’t worked out. I felt like I had a point to prove to certain people. During the game I just remember being frustrated as I couldn’t really get involved much as Gateshead had so much possession. All I wanted to do was to get a 50/50 with Phil and show him who the tougher twin was!!! After the game I couldn’t do anything but hold my hands up and say the better team won. I felt however, some of our bigger players didn’t really turn up on the day which was also frustrating.
EG – Your careers have taken similar but different paths. How has that been for you both?
PT – It was good as kids always being on the same team. We were successful with every team we played in so that helps. As we have got older we’re a little bit similar to play in the same team but then again he tends to play on the left now so maybe we could. Personally I don’t like playing for the same team as coaches, managers and fans subconsciously class us as the same person, so if I make a mistake then Stephen makes a mistake. People will say we are having a nightmare when really we aren’t; we just made the one mistake but they class us as the same person. I don’t blame them for it; it’s just one of those things. But, I hope we play together again one day, but not at the moment, I’m enjoying it too much at Gateshead and don’t want anything spoiling it.
ST – Yes, both of our careers have seemed to have gone in different directions lately, but that doesn’t matter to either of us as we both like to see each other do well. When we were at Hartlepool things went in my favour and I played 40 or so league games, however, it seems Philip is doing better at the minute playing in higher league. Although I feel like I’ve done well this last year. Scoring more goals than I ever had.
EG – Hartlepool United Youths winning the Dallas Cup. What are your thoughts, looking back now, on the start of your respective careers?
PT – To be honest I’m a little bit bitter with the start of my career because I honestly know that I’m easily good enough and was easily good enough at the time to be given a better chance at Hartlepool . I only made one appearance and to be fair I think I could have achieved a lot more. I absolutely loved my time at Hartlepool though, made friends with some great people and that’s were I learned my trade in some sense. My coach in the Youth Team, Paul Stephenson, was unbelievable, and I used to love going in every day. The Dallas Cup is a long story and would take weeks if I could mention everything; it was without doubt the best experience I’ve been involved in. It was literally the best ten days of my life and to win it was amazing, but even coming third the following year was even better, we managed to get further than Aston Villa and a few other Premier League teams, it was amazing.
ST – Hartlepool United was some of the best years of my life. I’ve made friends for life during my time at that club and whilst I was there I couldn’t ask for a better youth team coach than Paul Stephenson. He was a top, top fella who was so enthusiastic to see his players do well and break into the first team. Speaking of the Dallas Cup, I could be here all day talking about the place, it was the best ten days of my life, the football was amazing and the social side of it was possibly even better. My friends still say to me now, seven years later ‘you still talking about Dallas ?’ it was quite simply unbelievable. Like I say, football-wise, it was good. There was a lot of good teams out there who play different styles of football as they were from all over the world……to win it was amazing, it just summed up the whole trip really.
EG – Both of you have played for both Gateshead and Blyth at some stage of your careers, with recent years seeing both of you over the battle lines with Phil at the Heed and Stephen at Spartans. How was that on a personal level?
PT – We have both been very fortunate to represent Gateshead and Blyth , they’re both quality clubs. We both look to see how the other got on; it’s the first result I look for when I come off the pitch. We hammer each other now and again if one team gets battered and we hammered each other before the Trophy game, but to be honest, we both wish each other the best of luck and hope they’re as successful as possible.
ST – Playing for teams that don’t really like each other doesn’t really bother me and Phil. Don’t get me wrong, I’ll always want to see Blyth do well even though I’ve left, as I had two excellent years there and got on really well with the fans. However, I have a lot of friends still playing at Gateshead so to be honest I like to see them do well as they’re a northern team as well.
EG – You are both essentially midfielders. Have you always played in that position, elsewhere, or where do you feel the most comfortable?
PT – Yes, I prefer to play in midfield. When I was at Sunderland they used to play me out left which I used to dislike. Getting on the ball in midfield is what I like to contribute with, late in his career; Paul Scholes is whom I try to play like. Playing at Gateshead with Krissy Gate, compliments the life out of me because we both compliment each others game, we know each other to a tee, and he loves to get forward and I like to get on it. It does work pretty good.
ST – Yes, centre-midfield or left wing for me. However, we both started out as forwards I think and used to do quite well up there. Centre-midfield is probably where I feel most comfortable as I am able to get on the ball a lot in that position and influence the game more.
EG – What are your respective future plans?
PT – Plans for the future would be to get Gateshead into the Football League. I look at teams like Doncaster and you can see what they have done, so why can’t we? The facilities and everything at Gateshead is ready for a Football League team with Graeme Wood in charge and Brian Waits and people like that, the club is going places. We have taken massive strides over the last few years and now it’s time to kick on again and get promoted out of this league.
ST – In the future I would like to play as high as possible. I have recently finished university so I would like to back into professional football if anything came along. In the future I also hop to do a season in either America or Australia as I would like to travel the world a bit and see what other cultures and football is like.
(The above piece is the work of myself, Peter Mann, writing as The Exiled Geordie. This shall not be copied or used in any other publication unless the expression permission is given myself)